Symphonies 1-10 / Das Lied Von Der Erde [Blu-ray]
C**N
A welcome cost-effective antidote to the greed of some European labels!
First off, hats off to the RCO for producing their own complete set of Mahler symphonies plus Das Lied and Totenfeier, recorded over a seventeen month period, utilizing nine different conductors. Each work occupies its own disc (dvd or bluray), and this review is for the bluray. You can buy this set (11 discs) for $86 inc. shipping from 'import cds' in California.(this is cheaper than Amazon) Compare this - less than $8 per disc - to the $36 per disc charged by the Accentus label through Amazon for barely 60" of music! Well done!Most of the reviews I've seen for this set seem to have been rushed out, and, because I have been guilty in the past of writing reviews after only one run-through, I have waited to do this one until I had listened to everything at least twice. Believe me - I grew fonder of several of these performances after a second audition. There's just too much in a Mahler symphony to assimilate critically in one sitting.There seems to have been a considerable problem for some people to make these discs play in their bluray unit. I bought mine from Amazon usa, and had zero issues. All the cues and menus worked properly. I just have a three year old Panasonic basic region 1 bluray player with no software upgrades. This is such a significant release that, had my player not handled the discs, I would have shelled out $70 for another player that worked (maybe trial and error until I found one). After all, I've saved a bundle by paying only $8 a disc. That would be at least $250 savings for the whole set compared with the conventional labels.Another complaint seems to be the lack of subtitles or even movement identification. I agree that this is unfortunate, but I would not be deterred by this omission. After all, what you're experiencing here are films of concert performances, and if you had attended the concerts, you wouldn't have gotten any visual aids there, either.I would have liked movement timings printed in the sleeves, though.The playing on all these discs by the RCO is beyond reproach. The sound is beautifully caught, although the stereo mode is much flatter and not nearly as dynamic and visceral as the DTS MASTER AUDIO. You really need good surround sound for this set to show off its best.The video is also excellent, always focusing on the particular instrument or section being highlighted at that point. The video is quite crisp except for symphonies #7 & 9, where a much more diffuse, softer focus is used. The lighting seems harsher, too. Looks to me like a different producer/director team was used for these two. Almost reminds me of aging news anchors on tv that were petrified of HD because of complexion "issues".Now to the individual performances:-#1) Harding puts down a very good, at times idiomatic first, lots of portamento, conducting with no baton. Very good shots of the duelling timpani at the end. Very enjoyable performance.#2) Jansons' Resurrection is not as manic as some, but I thought beautifully controlled and integrated. Some interpretations can lose their way - this one really works its way towards a glorious finale. Maybe could have used a little larger choir.#3) Jansons again, again holding together a very long and episodic symphony. I prefer a swifter Langsam, but his speed fits the whole traversal of this engaging work#4) Fischer( whom I really like as a conductor) takes a highly personal view of the exquisite fourth, and this is one of the real winners here. Absolutely captivating.#5) Gatti is known for his individualistic Mahler readings, and this is no exception. He's very generous with his tempo variations, and when he launched into the Adagietto, I thought I was in for a 7-8 minute lovesong, as opposed to the usual 10-13 minute dirge. But he stops to smell the roses in the middle of it and ends up over 9 minutes! Pity! The finale is very exciting.#6) Maazel, never one of my favorites in Mahler, actually holds this one together very well, giving equal weight to the strings as to the winds. A bit broad, maybe, but he keeps the momentum going, and the hammer blows will elevate you from your seat.#7) I generally like Boulez' Mahler, especially #2, because all the instrumental parts can be discerned easily. The second Nachtmusik is taken faster than is usual, and is the better for it. Other than the video quality, very good version.#8) Jansons again; this one I liked much better on the second hearing when I could concentrate on the singers. I never once found my attention flagging, which can sometimes happen for me in the Part 2. There are two other notable eighths available - Chailly and Dudamel. I find myself liking this one best.#9) Haitink is to me a bland conductor - very stolid and predictable, and I am familiar with prior versions of his M9. Nothing much has changed - no playful lilt in the Landler, and a too drawn-out Adagio. Video quality very poor, as noted above.#10 I've owned the Inbal cd of the complete Cooke tenth for years, and it is a favorite. He does the famous upward glissando just before the end, unlike Rattle, for instance, who ignores it. Really involving performance - you'll definitely shed a tear or two in the last movement.Das Lied von der Erde and Totenfeier. Luisi has a way with Mahler - I love his #1 - and he swoops into Das Lied with a vengeance. A very exciting performance, helped enormously by the always wonderful Anna Larsson (dwarfing everybody else)and Robert Dean Smith. Both work without librettos. Totenfier is the apprentice work for symphony #2, first movement, and it is interesting to note how the work grew up. I'd love to see a Luisi #2.None of these performances are less than very good and a few are excellent. This set is a great deal, and well worth finding a bluray machine to play it on.
L**E
excellent performances -- fantastic per-disc pricing.
World class orchestra and conductors play Mahler live.Best bang-per-buck in the Mahler blu-ray market.The blu-rays are ALL REGION.
B**O
A unique one-of-a-kind that's still a mixed bag, mostly positive
There's little question that on a day-to-day basis, the Amsterdam Concertgebouw has to be among the very greatest Mahler orchestras on the planet. However, that's sometimes the problem here as well: too much familiarity. For me, the most perfunctory performances in this set are the three directed by their main conductor, Mariss Jansons (M2, M3 and M8). He conducts with thorough knowledge of these works, and with a very clear conducting technique as well. However, there's so little 'fire' or opinion to anything he's doing here. His performances are 'just there'. They're not bad performances, mind you (how could they be with the Concertgebouw). It's just that they just don't come across as being inspired in any real way either. Beethoven, Brahms or Haydn may as well have been on the menu (and, obviously, they deserve better as well). But from here, the set definitely improves.In M1, Daniel Harding gives a straight forward, fresh and 'youthful' performance that's completely appropriate. He jacks up the Eastern European flavor of the slow movement, but without miccro-managing or sounding overly fussy in the process. This is nicely done.For me, M4 with Ivan Fischer and Miah Persson (sop) is the highlight of this set. If anything, this is an even 'hotter' and more flexible performance than the fine one that the two of them offered to the world, via Channel Classics excellent sonics. This is among the finest Mahler 4th's I've ever heard. The Concertgebouw has had an outstanding track record with the fourth over the decades, and their streak surely continues here.In M5, Daniella Gatti brings to the table that which the Concertgebouw sometimes truly lacks: fire! That said, his 'interpretation' of the fifth has deepened since his inaugural recording of M5 with the Royal Phil. two decades ago. Like Fischer, Gatti fully understands that he has an instrument in front of him - the Concertgebouw - that will respond to his slightest gesture or subtle adjustments in tempo. In spite of Gatti's brusqueness from time to time (isn't the fifth a truly 'brusque' work anyway?), Gatti is seriously having fun here and so are we, his audience. I'm truly hopeful that Gatti will be considered on the short list for Janson's eventual successor someday.M6 with Lorin Maazel brings nothing that one wouldn't already expect, if they're already familiar with his dark, heavy and sometimes plain slow performances of Mahler that he's given in Vienna and New York. This is not a 'bad' performance by any means. However, the best that can said about it is that Maazel gives an appropriately dark and weighty reading of the piece. Oddly enough, the Concergebouw's percussion section plays far more timidly here than they did on Chailly's truly powerful recording of M6 for Decca (Chailly is a percussionist!)."DlvdE" & "Totenfeier" is conducted by the mercurial Fabio Luisi, who is now doing much of the conducting duties at the N.Y. Metropolitan Opera. This is very good - Anna Larsson is great! She even makes a strong effort not to over-sing her pseudo-outburst near the end of "der Abschied", where the good Earth and sky are turning all blue and green, and all that good stuff (Mahler does not make any dynamic adjustment above 'piano' at this critical juncture - many singers turn into a loud 'forte'). However, after hearing such a fine performance of "Das Lied von der Erde", why would ANYBODY want to stick around to hear "Totenfeier" - the heavily Liszt influenced, first version of what eventually became the opening movement to the "Resurrection" symphony (#2)? I just don't get that. It's not a bad performance of "Totenfeier", but why would anybody couple it to "DLvdE"?M9 with Haitink: I skipped it! I'll get around to it someday, but I just can't bring myself to look at it right now. I've always thought that Haitink's famous Concertgebouw recording of the 9th from the latter '60's was highly overrated to begin with. In more recent years, Haitink has become a one-man 'snooze fest' when it comes to Mahler (and many other composers as well). What happened to this man? Besides, I've been listening to the Dudamel/Los Angeles M9 that just got issued on DG (how many 9th's can people listen to at one time anyway!). I'm sure that this isn't terrible, but I doubt if I'll be bowled over by it either.I want to like the Cooke version of the 10th symphony with Eliahu Inbal more than I do. I don't know what it is, but I just can't jump on the band wagon for his Mahler (that said, his M7 with the Czech Phil. is outstanding!). He obviously knows these pieces exceedingly well, but there's something that just looks too scripted or 'choreographed' about his Mahler conducting. Part of the problem is that I'm just not THAT crazy about the Cooke version (I like the Samale/Mazzuca version best, so far). This isn't bad by any means, so there really is little reason for me to complain at all. I'm just not hanging from the rafters either. For the Cooke version, I still like the Ormandy version best, as well as the recent Gianandrea Noseda one on Chandos.Special mention has to be given to the M7 with Pierre Boulez. For a man who doesn't like minimalist music (neither do I), he sure is a 'minimalist' conductor. Boulez hardly conducts at all, and gives his most 'meaningful' indications through his eyes. Perhaps this is what the 'zen' of conducting is all about. I say all this because the Amsterdam audience goes 'nuts' at the end. In this entire set, Boulez is the one conductor who gets a unanimous standing ovation. Interpretively speaking, this reading differs little from the one he recorded in Cleveland for DG, the hallmarks of which being a slower than normal first movement; very 'zippy' tempi for the two Nachtmusik movements, and a refusal to slow down at the symphony's final peroration near the end of the finale. Boulez hardly deviates from his game-plan at all. Yet, the results were quite convincing to the Dutch audience. Someone more astute in psychology and human behavior than I, will have to offer an explanation as to why Boulez is so charismatic, and seems to disarm so many of his critics.This pretty much covers it, but I want to take a moment to talk about the Concertgebouw itself. This orchestra has always been famous for its fine woodwinds, as well as a great transparency to its tonal colorings. The hall itself has relatively steep tiers for the orchestra to sit upon, which gives the woodwinds far more relief than in most concert halls. The percussion have an elevated tier to themselves as well. Thus, the orchestra is well suited for Mahler's music with its almost equal emphasis on all four sections of the orchestra: strings, woodwinds, brass and percussion. But as I mentioned before, my only complaint about the Concertgebouw is that they can sound a tad bland or 'routine' in some of their performances. Granted all orchestras suffer this problem from time-to-time, as conductors are truly little more than a necessary evil (at their worst, that is). For me, part of the problem is in the brass.The Concertgebouw horns don't blaze-out the way that their counterparts in Berlin, Chicago, Pittsburgh or Vienna do. No doubt, some of that has to do with where the horns are positioned in the hall, and in relation to everyone else in the orchestra. The other problem - for me, anyway - is their insistence on sticking with American park band style, piston valve trumpets. There are times when the brightness of those trumpets are just right in Mahler's music. But there are other times when the darker and more burnished colorings of the German rotary valve trumpets are sorely missed (in the famous Kubelik/Bavarian Radio S.O. Mahler cycle, a mixture of American and German style trumpets was employed to great effect). The difference in tonal qualities of these trumpets has nothing to do with rotary vs. piston valves. Instead, it's the length and taper of their bell sections and lead pipes - leading up to the valve section - that make the difference (and yes, there are have been numerous attempts to meld the qualities of both trumpets). I know I'm getting into technical stuff that most people can't be bothered with. The point is this: in spite of their fine woodwinds and thoroughly 'modern' percussion, there are moments when the Concertgebouw's brass are just not all that coloristically correct for Mahler.In spite of his efforts to differentiate himself from Wagner and Bruckner (musically speaking), there are moments in Mahler symphonies where the horns really need to seize the moment (take the bull by the horns?), and the trumpets need to play 'second fiddle' to those horns (and yes, there are many moments where the opposite is true as well). All this is a bit akin to what people frequently say about professional sports teams: all problems and criticisms melt away when the team is winning. I find that the same is true with the Concertgebouw: all my slight reservations about them melt away when the conductor brings the one ingredient that they themselves sometimes forget to bring: fire! Watch the Fischer M4 and Gatti M5 and see if you don't agree.In spite of all the 'pluses' to this dvd set, if you want an all-Concertgebouw cycle of the Mahler symphonies, I personally would stick with the Chailly box on Decca. Just make sure to supplement that set with the outstanding Janet Baker/James King/Haitink "DLvdE" on Philips. But having just stated that opinion, nobody would go far wrong with the added bonus of the visuals that this unique set offers. If you want to hear and watch just one person's opinion on the major works of Mahler, you simply couldn't do better than to acquire the complete Bernstein dvd set on DG.
R**R
These performances are wonderful
While I have not yet finished all of the symphonies in this collection, I fine the performances superb. The sound quality is excellent and the tempos of the performances conform to versions of the symphonies that I favor - not too fast, not too slow. The adagio of 10 is simply breathtaking to me. Caveat - I am not a musician. I am only a lover of Mahler's work and have been so since I was in the 10th grade in high school. I'm now 74. The cinematography is on target as it focuses in on individual musicians.The other attractive features of these is that you get the feeling of a live performance without having to go to a theatre and inhale COVID aerosols or sit beside a cougher. I love live performances, but these DVDs combine the feeling of closeness to actual performance while still being in the intimacy of your own home. Better than CDs because being visual, you really LISTEN and do nothing but listen with these in the player. And I watched via a Blu-ray player.Plus, the price is right.
P**I
Meravigliose
Chi ama Mahler non resiste ad avere tulle le integrali delle sue opere. Questa è semplicemente magnifica, per l'audio , la qualità video e la capacità della regia di cogliere i dettagli.
J**Z
Un espléndido regalo
Llegada a tiempo y en perfectas condiciones. ¡A disfrutarlo!
W**R
Macht Freude
Diese Box wird jedem Mahler-Fan große Freude bereiten. Acht verschiedene Dirigenten, alles ausgewiesene Mahler Exegeten, sorgen sowohl optisch als auch musikalisch für sehr viel Abwechslung. Die Klangqualität ist hervorragend, hier hilft sicher auch der für seine runde, ausgewogene Akustik legendäre Concertgebouw-Saal. Die verschiedenen Musiker und Musikerinnen - Typen zu studieren , ist ein zusätzlicher Genuss. Das Amsterdamer Orchester bietet hier sehr viele interessante "Künstlerköpfe". Wunderbar stimmig und geschmackvoll sind auch die Architektur und die Farben des Konzertsaales.Besonders hervorheben möchte ich die zutiefst menschliche, in großer Altersgelassenheit gestaltete Nr. 9 des oft als bieder verkannten Haitink. Auch die 10te unter Inbal hat mir sehr gut gefallen. Die wuchtige, zupackende 6te ist bei Maazel auch nicht in schlechten Händen. (Ein Dirigierkollege über Maazel: "Er sieht aus wie ein Krokodil und dirigiert wie ein Krokodil.") Ein optischer und musikalischer Glücksgriff auch: Bernarda Fink als Mezzo in der 2ten.Wichtiger Nachtrag: Fast alle Aufnahmen dieser Box sind online auf der Homepage des RCO - kostenlos!- abrufbar.
ス**と
満足です
著名な指揮者とオーケストラによる、マーラーの交響曲全集です。標準的な演奏として、マーラー好きは購入しても良いのではないかと思います。
J**L
Superb performances of Mahler.
This set contains the recording of all of Mahler's symphonies and Das Lied by the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, under nine different conductors. These are exceptional performances with some of the greatest conductors of our time. The spectators of the Concertgebouw were very fortunate to watch such performances and they did not hide their enthusiasm. One could argue that a complete Mahler with the same director with his sensitivity and perception of the work might offer more unity of vision. But this is largely offset by the thrill of watching and comparing the styles and sensitivities of such great conductors. Sadly, Lorin Maazel and Pierre Boulez, have now left us. But I was particularly moved to watch eighty five years old Pierre Boulez conducting the orchestra with such precision and authority, and showing such great kindness to the musicians. And I was absolutely thrilled by the extraordinary performance of the "symphony of one thousand", the eight, under Mariss Jansons, then director of the Concertgebouw. I was totally captivated to watch this conductor and feel the permanent tension and the energy with which he inspires the musicians. I was only sorry not to have been in Amsterdam and not to have shared with the public the pleasure of watching such great concerts. This set is probably the next best thing to have been there, and a testimony to the legacy of the orchestra and these conductors. The technical quality, sound and images, is perfect.
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